i was moved from the post of another user on this topic.like the film "there will be blood" that deals with passive aggression in religion i do now think that there will be an inevitable uprise against the lunatics of the governing body .too many of us wake up in a rate that has never been seen before because of the internet .what do you think ?
what shape will this uprise take ?.
cuba libre.
Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania was established as a publishing company which charged for all its literature. Now that it now longer charges, in order to keep its charitable status, it is bound to diminish.
Who knows? One day it may attempt to establish itself as a religion! There is money in religion even without peddling books and magazines - if you know how to go about it. Can an old dog learn new tricks?
why were we so suprised people did not join in droves!
what an awful message we shared......
PSacramento As an observer your comments do not make you come across as self righteous. Rather they indicate that you strive to be a better person; the best you can be. Unlike an atheist with the same goal you believe that Christ can, through holy-spirit, help you to achieve your aim.
i was wondering (again) about what i got out of my deal with mormon god.
the more i thought about it the more i realised that the xian god asks way too much and offers too little.. what does xg demand:.
1 - obedience to changeable often arbitrary commandments normally with little clarification of when and when not to apply them.
We do tend to create the God we think we deserve or at least the God we think exists based on HOW WE see things.
Very true. I have not yet succeeded in creating a god. Actually I quite like being free to make my own decisions. I already have a wife, so a god as well might be too much to cope with in one short life.
why were we so suprised people did not join in droves!
what an awful message we shared......
Ah! PSacramento. I do admire the good intention behind your faith.
The question for me is whether life has a purpose or is just a game of chance? Without a god it's all down to the roll of the dice.
i was wondering (again) about what i got out of my deal with mormon god.
the more i thought about it the more i realised that the xian god asks way too much and offers too little.. what does xg demand:.
1 - obedience to changeable often arbitrary commandments normally with little clarification of when and when not to apply them.
Qcmbr All the points you raise are entirely accurate. They lead to the conclusion that this god is man’s invention; created in man’s own image in an incredibility successful attempt to establish authority to rule other humans. This is the god described in the bible and the Koran. Like a fake $100 bill it fools enough people to help holy men seize power and get rich.
Whether a real god exists is anyone’s guess. All I can personally say is that it has not been my pleasure to be contacted by such a being. As a younger man I attempted to contact and speak to such a being but my prayers fell on deaf or non-existent ears. Ah well! Life has other pleasures to offer.
why were we so suprised people did not join in droves!
what an awful message we shared......
What's with this obsession with being saved?
Better to die thoroughly spent and satisfied with days.
who is to say the "two witnesses" from revelation are not symbolic?
when we are dealing with revelation how can anyone as wrong as the watchtower society be so dogmatic about doctrines when it's been shown jesus christ has not revealed the "secrets that would be hidden until the last days"?
for all i know, my opinion on this matter is as good as anyone elses opinion.
None of this sounds plausible to me.
Best to chase up the smoking caterpillar theory.
on another thread i asked about this life being all there is.
if so, what would you consider important to have done or accomplished before you die so that 'your time alive' would not have been a total waste?.
if you haven't done it, or accomplished it, are you currently on a quest to do so?
jgnat I have a mind that is equally creative and logical, so I have an unusual mix of abilities.
Yes, I have seen your painting and read many of your posts and that comes across.
As to being on an improvement quest, I guess I spent many years on that highway. Talent can be improved by effort and practice. Genuine improvement as people happens or it doesn’t, it cannot be forced. Now I find that if we concentrate on being content and kind to others the rest will fall into place.
a bit of background.
my 6 year old talks about god an awful lot.
well more than i'm comfortable with.
james_woods Have we established the difference between the laws on religious promotion in the U.S. and the U.K.?
In the UK where I live, most schools have secular assemblies. They have religious studies which cover many religions including Muslims. Many towns have Roman Catholic and Church of England schools that teach Christianity and hold assemblies. Some town have been taken over by Muslims and have full religious indoctrination while teaching Muslims to hate everything about their host country, except out generous benefit system. What will I say when UK is Muslim with the possible exception of Scotland and Ireland? Praise Allah!
who is to say the "two witnesses" from revelation are not symbolic?
when we are dealing with revelation how can anyone as wrong as the watchtower society be so dogmatic about doctrines when it's been shown jesus christ has not revealed the "secrets that would be hidden until the last days"?
for all i know, my opinion on this matter is as good as anyone elses opinion.
Perhaps the writer, dear old John, rest in peace, had no idea himself. Whatever he was on sure had a kick to it! It’s like analyzing the works of Lewis Carroll and looking for the smoking caterpillar in real life. 
